Prophecies coming true?
Jun 23
So recently i asked a question about the end of the world and i had a few skeptics of the topic and i also had a few people who called me crazy, fair enough, i sounded like a loon, but i guess some of that craziness comes from the fact that prophecies from things such as the bible are coming true, where in other parts of history have people said something from the bible (ie. the book of revelation) has come true and its near the end of times? i doubt thats ever happened. please answer..oh and can someone clear up this pope prophecy? is it something to put merit into? something to worry about???
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June 23rd, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Have any examples?
Noah… Wow.. One. Such a plethora.
Chris.. Really? All of them?
The Jewish tradition of “The Messiah” has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands “The Messiah” to be a human being – without any overtone of deity or divinity – who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as “The Messiah”.
First of all, he must be Jewish – “…you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you.” (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah – “The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet…” (Genesis 49:10)
To be a member of the tribe of Judah, the person must have a biological father who is a member of the tribe of Judah.
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son – “And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever…” (2 Samuel 7:12 – 13)
The genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -”And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)
Are all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem – “…and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them..” (Ezekiel 37:26 – 27)
At last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace – “…they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.” (Micah 4:3)
Have you seen a newspaper lately? Are we living in a state of complete world peace? Has there ever been peace since the time of Jesus?
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments – “My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes.” (Ezekiel 37:24)
The Torah is the Jewish guide to life, and its commandments are the ones referred to here. Do all Jews observe all the commandments? Christianity, in fact, often discourages observance of the commandments in Torah, in complete opposition to this prophecy.
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d – “And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd” (Isaiah 66:23)
there are still millions if not billions of people in the world today who adhere to paganistic and polytheistic religions. It is clear that we have not yet seen this period of human history unfold.
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children’s children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be “The Messiah.” A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.
Certainly NOT Jesus.
spdj1401 isn’t it funny how all of your negative examples have always been going on and your positive examples are simply results of what Christianity is commanded to do?
June 23rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
gonna happen some way some how some time
Amazing how many people graduate from cornell, yale, champaigne and all kinds of famous universities throughout millenia, yet here were are sitting on the brink of self-destruction….haven’t learned a thing if you ask me
Hey don’t hate me with your thumbs down, these words are Carl Sagan’s not mine
June 23rd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
it only appears that it is coming true because you want it to. you want to give faith to your beliefs.
June 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Israel became a nation again. That’s one.
June 23rd, 2010 at 10:23 pm
There is no merit at all in the mish mash that is the bible.
June 23rd, 2010 at 11:18 pm
1. There are several mundane ways in which a prediction of the future can be fulfilled:
1. Retrodiction. The “prophecy” can be written or modified after the events fulfilling it have already occurred.
2. Vagueness. The prophecy can be worded in such a way that people can interpret any outcome as a fulfillment. Nostradomus’s prophecies are all of this type. Vagueness works particularly well when people are religiously motivated to believe the prophecies.
3. Inevitability. The prophecy can predict something that is almost sure to happen, such as the collapse of a city. Since nothing lasts forever, the city is sure to fall someday. If it has not, it can be said that according to prophecy, it will.
4. Denial. One can claim that the fulfilling events occurred even if they have not. Or, more commonly, one can forget that the prophecy was ever made.
5. Self-fulfillment. A person can act deliberately to satisfy a known prophecy.
There are no prophecies in the Bible that cannot easily fit into one or more of those categories.
2. In biblical times, prophecies were not simply predictions. They were warnings of what could or would happen if things did not change. They were meant to influence people’s behavior. If the people heeded the prophecy, the events would not come to pass; Jonah 3 gives an example. A fulfilled prophecy was a failed prophecy, because it meant people did not heed the warning.
3. The Bible also contains failed prophecies, in the sense that things God said would happen did not (Skeptic’s Annotated Bible n.d.). For example:
* Joshua said that God would, without fail, drive out the Jebusites and Canaanites, among others (Josh. 3:9-10). But those tribes were not driven out (Josh. 15:63, 17:12-13).
* Ezekiel said Egypt would be made an uninhabited wasteland for forty years (29:10-14), and Nebuchadrezzar would plunder it (29:19-20). Neither happened.
4. Other religions claim many fulfilled prophecies, too (Prophecy Fulfilled n.d.).
June 23rd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Every generation for thousands of years have been saying, “The end is near!” And they have always been wrong. Stop worrying.
Which prophecies are “coming true?” Citation needed.
@ Dreamstuff Entity: Thank you for driving home the point.
@ Kalee Jean!: Which prophecies? And as I said, people have been saying the world is going to end for thousands of years. And it has never come true. So what makes you think it’ll happen soon?
@ Chris: Jesus fulfilled them all the messianic prophecies? Really? So where is world peace? Where is the third temple? Why aren’t all the Jews in the world in Israel/Jersusalem?
June 24th, 2010 at 12:06 am
yeah, the prophecies are coming true!
but, there are more than a few that have to come true.
it will be soon though, but no one knows when.
June 24th, 2010 at 12:59 am
end of times won’t come until every nation (tribe) has heard Gospel…still over 100 uncontacted tribes…don’t worry
June 24th, 2010 at 1:19 am
All I can say is that we will never know lol, but remember, people said the same stuff when the dates 7/7/07 6/6/06 came around.
June 24th, 2010 at 1:22 am
The “pope” prophecy is not in the Bible. There is no “pope” in the Bible. Catholicism is false.
What is true, is that Jesus has fulfilled ALL Messianic prophecies: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/messianic_prophecies.htm
As for future prophecies: The Book of Revelation in the Bible is explaining the future. The Bible is 100% true, and of course Revelation is 100% true, and the events it tells, will ALL come to pass with PERFECT 100% ACCURACY.
In the future, there will be a one-world government, one-world economic system, and one-world false religion that all are lead by antichrist. Watch out for those that are “globalists” today. The Great Tribulation in the future will be a time of judgment and death around the world.
At the end of the Great Tribulation, Jesus Christ returns to the earth!
This is found in the Bible, in the Book of Revelation. Chapter 1 is the vision of Jesus. We are currently in chapters 2 and 3. Chapters 4 and 5 are the future scene in heaven during the Great Tribulation. Chapters 6 and beyond are the future on earth during the Great Tribulation.
Here is a website that teaches the meaning of every verse of every Book in the Bible: http://www.soniclight.com/constable/notes.htm
Scroll down to the link for Revelation, and read it alongside Revelation in the Bible.
RIGHT NOW what you need, is salvation. Jesus is God, and Jesus loves you so very much!
The truth about Jesus is that the only way to be saved and to get into heaven and avoid being sent to eternal hell, is by believing in faith alone that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross as FULL PAYMENT for all our sins, and then Jesus rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Believe this and you will be in heaven, no matter what! Salvation is a FREE GIFT that happens in a split second when you believe in Jesus alone to save you! It is impossible to lose or “leave” salvation (John 6:39-40, 1 John 5:13).
Please pray now: “Jesus, please forgive me of my sins. I believe that You died on the cross for my sins and You rose from the dead. Thank You for eternal life!” You will be in heaven with Him forever when you die.
June 24th, 2010 at 1:22 am
*GASP*
I had a prophecy that my dog would have really bad gas in the near future…
… and ALAS. He does now.
Bang. Boom. End of the world is imminent now. Sorry folks.
June 24th, 2010 at 2:10 am
Actually, every generation has claimed that Revelation is coming true form the day that it was written.
It is less likely now than 2000 years ago.
June 24th, 2010 at 2:34 am
The Hopi’s nine signs of the end (actually next age) are either all fulfilled or there is one remaining.
The Prophecy of the Popes say St. Peter is the next pope and the last for the world.
June 24th, 2010 at 3:34 am
They are quite real, it’s easy for the believers to see but the skeptics as in Noah’s day will just laugh and poke fun at you. John MacArthur at GTY.org has a whole time line laid out that you may be interested in.
June 24th, 2010 at 4:12 am
do you mean the one about the world ending in 2012?
i heard that its not going to happen, dont worry.
The Psychic Twins have predicted many things and they all came true, and they also said that the world isnt going to end
June 24th, 2010 at 4:35 am
Well, remember that Noah told the people about the flood and they laughed at him and continued to drink and make merry, There are those that believe (those that have been called and have answered and those that have laughed their way to their own destruction) Noah’s story is the best example of how man thinks God is kidding and this whole thing is just a laugh. the time is coming.
June 24th, 2010 at 4:57 am
MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OF THE LAST DAYS
“Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.” (Matthew 24:7) Millions of people have been killed in wars during the past century. One British historian wrote: “The 20th century was the most murderous in recorded history. . . . It was a century of almost unbroken war, with few and brief periods without organised armed conflict somewhere.” A report from the Worldwatch Institute states: “Three times as many people fell victim to war in [the 20th] century as in all the wars from the first century AD to 1899.” More than 100 million people have died as a result of wars since 1914. Even if we know the sorrow of losing one loved one in warfare, we can only imagine such misery and pain multiplied millions of times over.
“There will be food shortages.” (Matthew 24:7) Researchers say that food production has increased greatly during the past 30 years. Nevertheless, food shortages continue because many people do not have enough money to buy food or land on which to raise crops. In developing countries, well over a billion people have to live on an income of a dollar or less a day. The majority of these suffer from chronic hunger. The World Health Organization estimates that malnutrition plays a major role in the deaths of more than five million children each year.
“There will be great earthquakes.” (Luke 21:11) According to the U.S. Geological Survey, since 1990 alone an average of 17 earthquakes per year have been powerful enough to damage buildings and crack the ground. And on an average, earthquakes strong enough to cause total destruction of buildings have occurred yearly. Another source states: “Earthquakes have claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in the last 100 years and improvements in technology have only slightly reduced the death toll.”
“There will be . . . pestilences.” (Luke 21:11) Despite medical advances, old and new diseases plague mankind. One report says that 20 well-known diseases—including tuberculosis, malaria, and cholera—have become more common in recent decades, and some types of disease are increasingly difficult to cure by means of drugs. In fact, at least 30 new diseases have appeared. Some of them have no known cure and are fatal.
PEOPLE OF THE LAST DAYS
Aside from identifying certain world developments, the Bible foretold that the last days would be marked by a change in human society. The apostle Paul described what people in general would be like. At 2 Timothy 3:1-5, we read: “In the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.” In part, Paul said that people would be
? lovers of themselves
? lovers of money
? disobedient to parents
? disloyal
? having no natural affection
? without self-control
? fierce
? lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God
? having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power
Have people become like that in your community? No doubt they have. There are people everywhere who have bad traits. This shows that God will soon act, for the Bible says: “When the wicked ones sprout as the vegetation and all the practicers of what is hurtful blossom forth, it is that they may be annihilated forever.”—Psalm 92:7.
POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS!
The last days are indeed filled with woe, just as the Bible foretold. In this troubled world, however, there are positive developments among the worshipers of Jehovah.
“The true knowledge will become abundant,” the Bible book of Daniel foretold. When would that happen? During “the time of the end.” (Daniel 12:4) Especially since 1914, Jehovah has helped those who truly desire to serve him to grow in understanding of the Bible. They have grown in appreciation of precious truths about God’s name and purpose, the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the condition of the dead, and the resurrection. Moreover, worshipers of Jehovah have learned how to live their lives in a way that benefits them and brings praise to God. They have also gained a clearer understanding of the role of God’s Kingdom and how it will set matters straight on the earth. What do they do with this knowledge? That question brings us to yet another prophecy that is being fulfilled in these last days.
“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth,” said Jesus Christ in his prophecy about “the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matthew 24:3, 14) Throughout the earth, the good news of the Kingdom—what the Kingdom is, what it will do, and how we can receive its blessings—is being preached in over 230 lands and in more than 400 languages. Millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses zealously preach the Kingdom good news. They come from “all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues.” (Revelation 7:9) The Witnesses conduct free home Bible studies with millions of people who want to know what the Bible really teaches. What an impressive fulfillment of prophecy, especially since Jesus foretold that true Christians would be “objects of hatred by all people”!—Luke 21:17. If anyone is interested in such a study please feel free to contact me!
June 24th, 2010 at 5:00 am
I assure you that christians have been predicting the end times as long as there have been christians to predict it. A prophesy only needs to be vague enough for people to insist it is being fulfilled.
June 24th, 2010 at 5:03 am
The truth is that we simply do not know. What Pope prophecy?
I have heard through a Catholic book from St.Malachi, a saint from Ireland a long time ago, that after this present Pope there will be one more Pope. Then his prophecy ended.
I have also thought about the end times. Please beware of people who have interpreted any part of the Bible.
June 24th, 2010 at 5:07 am
Prophesies? Uh, huh.
8-/
June 24th, 2010 at 5:26 am
ZERO “prophecies from the bible” have come true or are ever likely to; it is a canon riddled with factual, historical, temporal & geographical errors.
Even something as simple as “The End Of The World” it gets wrong, numerous times! We are not supposed to still be here according to ANY of the various incorrect biblical prognostications!
Here’s what is says;
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/end.html
If it can be so wrong about that at least two dozen times, why would you trust it about anything else?
Have you actually READ the bible? Can you name a SINGLE “prophecy” that has actually come true? (Prophecies that can be historically shown to have been written after an event happened don’t count!)
June 24th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Staggering events will soon shock the whole world! Great prophecies in the book of Revelation show how and when these catastrophic events will occur. This booklet contains vital understanding that will forever change your outlook on the future. But you must have the keys that unlock it! And you must examine every scripture quoted—along with the entirety of Revelation. This stunning book of prophecy is opened, revealed and explained—at last! Unrest grows daily around the world. Terrorism mounts. Bad news increases, while good news is increasingly scarce. Conditions worsen daily!
Man has tapped the power of the atom. Science and technology have seemingly run amok, producing more horrific new inventions. Now, more and more countries possess weapons of mass destruction. This danger is compounded because mistrust and strife between nations has never been greater.
Also, human decadence and immorality, famine, disease, racism and competition among ethnic rivals, and crime and violence are exploding. Where are these downward trends leading? Will human life survive?
What does the future hold? All want to know. Many have opinions, but few recognize where to find the answers. Others think they understand the prophecies of the Bible—and this is probably most true of the book of Revelation. Yet all popular human interpretations of this book, at best, border on ridiculous. They are a complete jumble of ideas where a little truth is mixed with much error! They are almost painful to read—yet major magazines report that great numbers do believe these dangerous, counterfeit scenarios.
What is the truth about prophecy? What does the Bible really say about events preceding Christ’s Return? His disciples wanted to know. They asked Him, “What shall be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the world [age]?”
Sobering world conditions make this question loom larger than ever before. Nothing that has occurred over the past 6,000 years even remotely compares to what is yet to come upon this world!
The Bible foretells a time of world peace, happiness, abundance and universal prosperity. Many may think there is no hope for this world—but there is! Wonderful good news lies beyond today’s bad news. The great Creator God will soon intervene and save humanity from itself. But before this occurs, world trouble will greatly increase—intensifying to staggering proportions. This will be followed by unexpected and cataclysmic events that will shake the whole world! Civilization as we know it will forever change.
But God has not left mankind without a source of answers that reveals in detail what lies ahead. Tragically, believing things will eventually “turn out alright,” many hide their eyes, choosing to pursue pleasure and the accumulation of material goods. But for the short term, things will not turn out alright. World conditions are—and will become—far more serious than most realize.
God understands human nature and where it always leads when left to its own devices. This allows Him to know, and to guide, the awesome future events that will occur from now on!
It has become God’s time to reveal what lies ahead. The stage is set and He has lifted the curtain on the future. This world must be warned while there is still time! And so must you be warned. Revelation describes soon-coming terrible plagues and world-shattering—truly earth-shaking—events! Take heed. If you do, you can escape them (Luke 21:36).
Mystery Book
Signs, seals, symbols, vials, visions, trumpets, thrones, plagues, angels, beasts, heads, horns, witnesses, woes, wars, numbers, multitudes, messages and mystery! Revelation contains all of these terms. But what do they mean?
Most believe that the book of Revelation is sealed, closed from understanding. It is called a mystery book without meaning. Yet it is an entire book of important—vital—meaning. It is filled with answers. The above terms can be unlocked! They can be understood—and this eye-opening booklet contains the necessary keys!
You will be intrigued—even fascinated—by the clarity of what can be known from the book of Revelation. Events are building to a final culmination—a tremendous CLIMAX! You can know them.
One-third of the Bible is prophecy—the future written in advance! The Bible is approximately 750,000 words, with about 250,000 devoted to many, many prophecies. Almost half the books of the Old Testament are included in either the so-called “major” (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel) or “minor” prophets (Hosea, Joel, Amos, Jonah, Micah, etc.).
The apostle Paul explained that the New Testament Church was “…built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets” (Eph. 2:20). Recognize that, since the Church stands on the words of the prophets, Christians must understand prophecy. If God commands men to “live by every word of God” (Matt. 4:4; Luke 4:4; Deut. 8:3), He would not exclude the full third that is prophecy!
The prophet Daniel spoke of a time when “…many shall run to a